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UM Knife 
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2007 15:29


TOC could use a little help...Come on some of the other OSU numbnuts must be buying into his mistaken logic...

Matta was a relative unknown when he took over. Just like Matta.

My secretary knows who Oden is because it was on TV last night. BFD! Who cares?

UM FANS: lets stop ligitimizing these morons by arguing with them. Instead, lets discuss the Beilein hire. We will all be more intelligent by not paying any attention to the rants of the galactically clueless people from Ohio.

bigboyBlue 
Member
# Posted: 3 Apr 2007 15:40


Actually now that we've got Beilein, could we discuss possible hires for our coach-less women's bball program, pretty please?

Wolvrin704 
Member
# Posted: 3 Apr 2007 16:00


All TOC cares about is seeing how many threads he can hijack. Its a common theme guys. Every thread we have that should be about UM ONLY he comes in and makes a smartass comment about our program or makes some comparison to OSU.
Go to any thread and that is what you will see. And he only does it because we respond to his slurs and insults.

The Michigan Man 
Member
# Posted: 3 Apr 2007 19:32


It's not very difficult to upgrade a disaster of a program, with any luck Beeline will get you guys past the first round of the NIT's.

Last NC for Michigan - 1989. I guess it could be worse...

1960s:
The sixties were the age of youth, as
70 million children from the post-war baby boom became teenagers and young adults. The movement away from the conservative fifties continued and eventually resulted in revolutionary ways of thinking and real change in the cultural fabric of American life. No longer content to be images of the generation ahead of them, young people wanted change. The changes affected education, values, lifestyles, laws, and entertainment. Many of the revolutionary ideas which began in the sixties are continuing to evolve today.

FADS
Youth predominated the culture of the 1960's. The post World War II Baby Boom had created 70 million teenagers for the sixties, and these youth swayed the fashion, the fads and the politics of the decade. California surfers took to skateboards as a way to stay fit out of season, and by 1963, the fad had spread across the country. Barbie dolls, introduced by Mattel in 1959, became a huge success in the sixties, so much so that rival toy manufacturer Hasbro came up with G. I. Joe, 12 inches tall and the first action figure for boys. Another doll, the troll or Dammit doll (named for it's creator, Thomas Dam) was a good luck symbol for all ages. Slot cars overtook toy trains in popularity.

COSTUMES / FASHION

The 1960's began with crew cuts on men and bouffant hairstyles on women. Men's casual shirts were often plaid and buttoned down the front, while knee-length dresses were required wear for women in most public places. By mid-decade, miniskirts or hot pants, often worn with go-go boots, were revealing legs, bodywear was revealing curves, and women's hair was either very short or long and lanky. Men's hair became longer and wider, with beards and moustaches. Men's wear had a renaissance. Bright colors, double-breasted sports jackets, polyester pants suits with Nehru jackets, and turtlenecks were in vogue. By the end of the decade, ties, when worn, were up to 5" wide, patterned even when worn with stripes. Women wore peasant skirts or granny dresses and chunky shoes. Unisex dressing was popular, featuring bell bottomed jeans, love beads, and embellished t-shirts. Clothing was as likely to be purchased at surplus stores as boutiques. Blacks of both genders wore their hair in an afro.

HISTORIC EVENTS AND TECHNOLOGY
The Civil Rights movement made great changes in society in the 1960's. The movement began peacefully, with Martin Luther King and Stokely Carmichael leading sit-ins and peaceful protests, joined by whites and Jews. Malcolm X preached about Black Nationalism. After his assassination, the Black Panthers were formed to continue his mission. In 1965, the Watts riots broke out in Los Angeles. The term "blacks" became socially acceptable, replacing "Negroes." The number of Hispanic Americans tripled during the decade and became recognized as an oppressed minority. Cesar Chavez organized Hispanics in the United Farm Workers Association. American Indians, facing unemployment rates of 50% and a life expectancy only two-thirds that of whites, began to assert themselves in the courts and in violent protests. The Presidential Commission of the Status of Women (1963) presented disturbing facts about women's place in our society. Betty Friedan, Pauli Murray and Gloria Steinem, (National Organization for Women) questioned the unequal treatment of women, gave birth to Women's Lib, and disclosed the "glass ceiling." The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was amended to include gender. The birth control pill became widely available and abortion for cause was legalized in Colorado in 1967. In 1967, both abortion and artificial insemination became legal in some states.
The Supreme Court decided in Engel v. Vitale, 370 U.S. 421, 1962, that prayer in the public schools was unconstitutional. As the 1960's progressed, many young people turned from mainstream Protestant religions to mystic eastern religions such as Transcendental Meditation (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) or Zen Buddhism. Respect for authority declined among the youth, and crime rates soared to nine times the rate of the 1950's. Marijuana use soared. Respected figures such as Timothy Leary encouraged the use of LSD as a mind-opening drug. The hippie movement endorsed drugs, rock music, mystic religions and sexual freedom. They opposed violence. The Woodstock Festival at which 400,000 young people gathered in a spirit of love and sharing, represents the pinnacle of the hippie movement. Many hippies moved to Haight Ashbury in San Francisco, East Village in New York City, or lived in communes.

When Fidel Castro, soon after overtaking Cuba, declared that he was a communist, the United States broke off diplomatic relations. Castro seized American property. The CIA attacked Cuba in an ill-fated mission at the Bay of Pigs. In 1962, a spy plane identified long range missiles in Cuba. President John F. Kennedy readied troops to invade Cuba, and the Soviet Union prepared to fire at US cities if we made a move.

John F. Kennedy was young and charismatic, and his brief reign as president was often called Camelot. He was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963. His Vice President, Lyndon B. Johnson became president, and was reelected the following year. To prevent communist North Vietnam from overtaking South Vietnam, the United States sent military advisors and then soldiers. It was largely a secret war until 1965, when massive troop buildups were ordered to put an end to the conflict. The draft was accelerated and anti-war sentiment grew in the US. College students organized anti-war protests, draft dodgers fled to Canada, and there were reports of soldiers reflected the growing disrespect for authority, shooting their officers rather than follow orders. Johnson, blamed by many for the war and the racial unrest in the country, did not run for reelection in 1968. John Kennedy's brother, Robert campaigned for the nomination for President and he, too was killed. Malcolm X was assassinated in 1965 and Martin Luther King was assassinated in 1968.

The Space Race, begun by the Soviets in 1957, was highlighted by Alan Shepard, the first American in space in 1961. In 1963, John Glenn was the first American to orbit the earth. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, in Apollo XI, were the first men to walk on the moon in 1969. The surgeon general determined that smoking was a health hazard, and in 1965 required cigarette manufacturers to place warnings on all packages and in all ads. The first clone of a vertebrate, a South African tree frog, was produced in 1967. Dr. Denton Cooley implanted the first artificial heart in a human, and it kept the patient alive for three days until a human heart could be transplanted.

LesMilesNextUMCoach 
Member
# Posted: 3 Apr 2007 21:19


Funny how the Buckeye fans are calling Beilein an "NIT coach" when they guy made the NCAA Elite Eight and Sweet Sixteen in back-to-back years at a program that has not had recent success in hoops.

This year's team was REBUILDING and still won the NIT. Plus, fans were excited about the team and were big in win over #1 UCLA. Also, a lot more than 3,000 fans showed up for the first round NIT game!

We were supposed to be in the NCAA, yet got killed in the 2nd round of the NIT!

We have been lacking an excellent coach in A-squared for years. Amaker was decent, but clearly could not get it done in some of the big games at home. Probably not since the early days of Steve Fisher did I feel that we had solid coaching.

I think Amaker's program peaked with the NIT win in 2004. The only real defining win I can remember from him was over MSU in 2003 when we broke a long losing streak.

Beilein is probably at his last stop and was in line for the NC State job last year if not for the buyout issue.

This program is starved for any kind of basketball success.

Buckeye Nation 
Member
# Posted: 3 Apr 2007 21:23 Edited by: Buckeye Nation


Funny how the Buckeye fans are calling Beilein an "NIT coach" when they guy made the NCAA Elite Eight and Sweet Sixteen in back-to-back years at a program that has not had recent success in hoops

It's the same kind of funny as Michigan fans ripping OSU for being runner up in college basketball.

Mike Furley 
Member
# Posted: 3 Apr 2007 21:53


Funny how the Buckeye fans are calling Beilein an "NIT coach" when they guy made the NCAA Elite Eight and Sweet Sixteen in back-to-back years at a program that has not had recent success in hoops

There's basically four OSU fans who think this way who regularly visit this site, and you allow them to antagonize you. Why?? Beilein is a solid hire. I'm not on board saying he is a home run selection like luring a Pititino, Donovan, or Roy Williams away, but he's definately an off the wall, stand up double type selection; who, once he has players on the roster who fit his system will regularly have the Wolverines competing for Big Ten titles, NCAA tourneys, and the occasional deep run into March Madness.

Isn't that pretty much all you can expect at a school like Michigan given the present circumstances? If Beilein puts in 8-10 good years with tourney success and a Big Ten championhip sprinkled in here and there, when U of M makes its next hire for mens basketball, you will be in a much better position to land the Big Kahuna type coach.

I think on surface, Beilein kind of is on par with Jim O'brien. He was a decent man who cleaned up the mess of Randy Ayers, was an execellent game coach with a high basketball I.Q. and won us a couple championships and got us a Final Four. I don't see why Beilein can't have similar on court success.

His biggest (and maybe his only) drawback is his age. By the time he has "his" players in place and is achieving high success, he's going to be nearing sixty, and sometimes the shine comes off a coach when they get in their sixty's.

OSUSTEVE 
Member
# Posted: 3 Apr 2007 22:00


It appears to me that John Beilein is an excellent hire by UM. His resume is great.

For his sake, I hope he made the right decision. Beilein's first WV team was 14-15 in 2002 and each year improved. This year they were 27-9 and won the NIT. In previous years he made it to the Elite 8 and the Sweet 16 in the NCAA tournament.

Quite simply, the guy has built a very solid program at a Big East school. He is leaving an outstanding job to take a very challenging position at a Big 10 school where the expectations are sky high (but where recent success has been very limited).

I believe Beilein leaving West Virginia to go to Michigan is like Billy Donovan leaving Florida to go to Kentucky. In time, the guy could have been a God in West Virginia and had a lot less stress than he will experience in Ann Arbor.

LesMilesNextUMCoach 
Member
# Posted: 3 Apr 2007 23:41


If Beilein is able to win a Big 10 Regular Season title, it will be our first since 1985-86. That would be a pinnacle and make this hire well worth the money we paid to buyout his contract at WVU.

I don't think we have the luster in hoops to have hired away a guy like Donovan, Pitino, etc. This was a nice hire and showed me that Martin wanted to get the best that he could, given the circumstances. Likewise, Amaker was the right guy in 2001...too bad for him and us that NIT was all he could bring here.

When Lloyd finally quits, then we will be able to bring in a great FB coach, but our hoops program is not what it was in the late 1980's.

I have low expectations for next year (NIT) because: (1) we have no center, (2) four seniors are gone (underperformers or not, they played a lot this year), (3) we have a young team, (4) Beilein will need time to get his system in place.

If Amaker had stayed, it was also unlikely that we would have made the NCAA while having to replace four starters.

Basically, if we see that a coaching philosophy is being implemented and improvement is happening, then we will know that the team will develop an identity.

For a while, I thought Amaker had built a strong D mindset. We have never had much going on offense, but at least the D used to be good.

This past season, our D was pretty crappy. How else do we fold and give up something like 15 straight baskets (w/o a miss) in our season ending loss at FSU?????

Mike...the Buckeye nuts don't get under my skin. I wanted to see if any had a reason for claims they are making about Beilein --- engage in a debate, if you will. Since nonewere capable of offering any intelligent insight, they have only proven what I already expect from blue-collar OSU fans.

check 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 00:21


Furley, you are one of the few osu fans that can actually step out and be objective.

Beillein made it to the elite 8 with a team that really had no significant guy, except for Pittsnoggle, and had a real shot of getting to the Final 4. I think he is a great hire. Michigan is a pretty good b-ball state, Flint Northwestern turned out some great college players. If he can win a WVU with those type of recruits I think in a few years Michigan will return to the top of the Big 10. Give this guy two or three years and we will be back.

The Michigan Man 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 06:25


Furley, you are one of the few osu fans that can actually step out and be objective.

MF & OSUSTEVE, you maintain credibility as sports fans. It is so predictable that the trollers are just going to bash a new Michigan coach, regardless of his talent.

It's the same kind of funny as Michigan fans ripping OSU for being runner up in college basketball.

This only happens on a website like this, where trolling is rampant. Michigan fans have no obligation to be cordial to serial trollers who have nothing to contribute but negativity.

UM Knife 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 08:04


Nice post Furley and Steve. Its nice to see someone add to the conversation instead of antagonize it.

Michigan will never land a coach like Donovan, Pitino etc. It comes with the lack of facilities and the fact we are a football first school. (Florida hired Donovan before he really was Donovan).

I think this is a great hire. Beilein runs a variation of the Princeton offense that Michigan fans will learn to appreciate. I also think they will do better than expected even with the lack of experienced talent because they will actually run an offensive system. Something I dont remember a TA-coached team do.

michagain 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 08:34


From the Associated Press, Beilein is quoted as saying "I am excited about this new opportunity at Michigan. I wouldn't go there if I didn't think they could win a national championship." My facts may be a little skewed but I believe he went on to say that the NC would be next year for Michigan after we kick OSU butt. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

bigboyBlue 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 09:55


For those interested, Beilein's press confererence will be broadcasted live (and free) on mgoblue.com at noon today. Don't miss it!

BlueBobcat 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 09:59


I have low expectations for next year (NIT) because: (1) we have no center, (2) four seniors are gone (underperformers or not, they played a lot this year), (3) we have a young team, (4) Beilein will need time to get his system in place.

Well, I agree and disagree.

If we can hold on to Harris and Legion I think we could have a surprising year. These guys are lights out.......I mean, when's the last time we landed two top 25/top 30 recruits on the wing? Both are great slashers and phenominal scorers. Sims has another year under his belt and Smith is a very solid guy at the guard position. Great guard/wing play can get you into the NCAA's and I think it's a possibility we'll have that if Harris and Legion both come in. We'll be incredibly young but we'll have a lot of talent. Having a coach that gets evrything out of his players could lead to a pleasant surprise.

Tressel owns Carr 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 10:17


Last NC for Michigan - 1989. I guess it could be worse...

The next time UM beats OSU in Football or Basketball? The year, 2050:


(1) Adapting To Global Warming By Building a Huge Resort On the Arctic Ocean:

They will soon fast track a new resort at Inuvik, on the Arctic Ocean. It will be extremely popular, mainly because it will be the only beach resort left where people can enjoy a nice cool swim. A six lane highway will be built so people from across North America can easily access the resort with their SUV's and Winnebagos.

By 2050 parts of the southern States will be abandoned due to the heat and the extreme weather. So, the parts of Los Vegas that can be moved will be moved to Inuvik, along with a bunch of shopping malls, and a second hand coliseum.

Immediately next to the beach will be a huge iceberg, made out of non-glare white plastic. Penguins and pandas, by popular demand, will be placed on the top; and elephants and giraffes will be imported to run around on a platform at the base of the iceberg. Unfortunately the plastic, of course, will soon damage the feet of the animals, so they will all have to be outfitted with pink booties. So, as all the animals proudly prance around in their booties, all the Americans will agree that, although Inuvik isn't a Disneyland or a Los Vegas, it certainly is a nice cool place.

(2) The Southern United States Will Adapt to Perpetual Hurricanes and Extreme Heat:

In 2050, most of the people in the southern United States will escape the fires, heat, hurricanes, tornados, snow, and flooded beaches by heading north to the Arctic Ocean where they will settle in the resort city of Inuvik. This location not only has a cool ocean to swim in, but at the end of the beach there are two real trees to enjoy. Those trees will look strong and healthy, because they will be nourished and protected by a team of 140 dedicated workers, 24 hours a day.

In late June, tourists in Inuvik will love to suntan for 20 hours a day in real sunshine (which will be mostly smog free, as long as the wind blows from the north). In December Inuvik will be even busier. It will attract people from around the globe who want to adapt to global warming by escaping. In Inuvik, the escape will last all night long, and in Inuvik that means the party goes on for 24 hours. Video games, bingo, and poker will be used to ensure the party is unforgettable. At the end of the night, as the party comes to an end, everyone will have a chance to pause and relax, momentarily, then they can plunge into the next night's party. This is why they will need a coliseum, to be used as a drunk tank. Inuvik will be the most popular resort on the planet.




The Dead Can Live Again:

About 50 years from now, it will be possible to use virtual reality to bring the dead back to life. People will drag out their old and boring home movies and choose a relative to bring back to life. The visual will be combined with records about that person to create a virtual relative.

Then the family can have a chat with that relative, keep it running, and live with it. The experience will be like living with a ghost.

People who died long ago will be resurrected so they can take on new roles. In 2030 the great people of the 20th Century will be brought back alive virtually and be presented on television.

The world will look on in awe as they watch the famous interact at a party. They will watch Richard Nixon make out with Margaret Thatcher, the Three Stooges try to pick a fight with Hulk Hogan, Elvis (the king) Presley trying to impress Queen Elizabeth, and Albert Einstein exploring reality with Marilyn Monroe.

The Michigan Man 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 10:35


The year, 2050

Mo Clarett will be eligible for parole.

Building a Huge Resort On the Arctic Ocean:

Much to the dismay of Tosu fans, couch burning will be a felony, as to prevent damage to the iceburgs and penguins.

People who died long ago will be resurrected so they can take on new roles.

Tosu resurrects Woody and has him speak to the team right before the Michigan game. Unfortunately, as a prank, a frat at Michigan resurects Charlie Bauman, who promptly receives another black eye from Woody. A riot ensues, and Tosu forfeits the game, giving Michigan it's first win since 2003. TOC's brilliant prediction comes to fruition..

Tressel owns Carr 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 10:50


Tosu resurrects Woody and has him speak to the team right before the Michigan game. Unfortunately, as a prank, a frat at Michigan resurects Charlie Bauman, who promptly receives another black eye from Woody. A riot ensues, and Tosu forfeits the game, giving Michigan it's first win since 2003. TOC's brilliant prediction comes to fruition..




Wow. It even will take a forfeit on our part for UM to finally chalk up a win. Can you say OWNED!?



Todd 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 11:03 Edited by: Todd


2050??? For some reason I'm feeling confident we won't have to wait that long.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2821548

Now coach Jim Tressel faces a future devoid of not just Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith, but most of his surrounding offensive skill position talent, as well as the team's two best offensive linemen and six defensive starters.

Tressel owns Carr 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 11:19


Sounds a lot like last year doesn't it?

Todd 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 11:31


Sounds a lot like last year doesn't it?

Huh??? It doesn't sound anything like last year! Please read the following again and explain how that sounds like last year.

Now coach Jim Tressel faces a future devoid of not just Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith, but most of his surrounding offensive skill position talent, as well as the team's two best offensive linemen and six defensive starters.

bigboyBlue 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 11:42 Edited by: bigboyBlue


For those interested, Beilein's press confererence will be broadcasted live (and free) on mgoblue.com at noon today. Don't miss it!

That was a good conference guys, Beilein is a perfect fit for UM in terms of likeability, integrity and class. I think it is credible that he has taken this leap of faith, despite hearing what he might have about the practice facilities. He did mention that he is talking to Martin about upgrades, and they will happen.

He also seemed like a tough nut to play for too, I especially liked his comment about the players 'running track' if they weren't self motivated and failed to reach their summer conditioning goals. It also appeared that he had bonded well in his brief time with the current players and will be meeting with the recruits parents to keep them coming to UM. He mentioned several times that expectations should be high, especially given how much money BBall coaches are paid these days ($1.3m a year for him reportedly, though he said UM has nothing to do with his buyout and his lawyers are working on it).

Edit: Todd, quit feeding TrollOC and focus on the thread topic

BlueGoo 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 11:42


As usual, the OSU fans are in a major damage control cover-your-aass mode to prevent their feelings from getting hurt any further.

That right now is not neccessary here. I did not try to rub it in when OSU lost in football and will not do that now with basketball. What cannot be forgotten is that Oden and Conley are just freshmen! Give the kids a bit of a break on that point. Also, past Oden, OSU was giving up a huge height advantage to FLorida across the front line and still nearly dominated under the boards.

If Oden stays, by the time he is a junior he will be the second coming of Godzilla on the court. That is certain not to happen, nor will Conley stay.

But don't forget, O'Brien was recruiting pretty well for OSU, and led them to the final four just a couple years ago. Matta did not inherit a bare cupboard there in Columbus. Beulein basically is, and that is blamed directly on Martin and company. We still have an aging arena and NO practice facility to be concerned about! There is so much to be done up there right now!

And also don't forget, this isn't a fuucking OSU board! OK, Matta is good, the program is great, OSU is back next year for another run with or without Oden and possibly Conley also (although I am sure he is coming back). Fine, now go away!

As for UM, things get better fast. There is no chance in hell Tressel is going to beat Carr in Ann Arbor this year, Carr's last at UM. And Beulein's Princeton offense does not need superstars to win games, so improvement out of the gate is near certain. UM will have emotion and fire lacking in the last 6 seasons. Unless all of OSU's players stay, UM will get one of two from them next year.

Tressel owns Carr 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 11:43


Sigh. Last year we only returned two defensive and 7 offensive starters, we also sent a few to the pros:

Players Drafted:
AJ Hawk OLB - Round 1 - Green Bay
Donte Whitner S - Round 1 - Buffalo
Bobby Carpenter OLB - Round 1 - Dallas
Santonio Holmes WR - Round 1 - Pittsburgh
Nick Mangold C - Round 1 - NY Jets
Ashton Youboty CB - Round 3 - Buffalo
Anthony Schlegel ILB - Round 3 - NY Jets
Nate Salley S - Round 4 - Carolina
Rob Sims G - Round 4 - Seattle

Tressel owns Carr 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 12:00


Todd? Are you there?

MUFAN2 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 12:04 Edited by: MUFAN2


Sigh. Last year we only returned two defensive


so what does that mean? You played two good teams last year, one put up 41 points and one put up 39 points on that defense...

so in the two games where you played good teams OSU went 1-1 and that "D" gave up 80 points.

Todd 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 12:08 Edited by: Todd


Great list...Thanks for helping prove my point!

You're list includes the loss of 1 notable skill player coming into 06'. You lose basically every significant starting skill player going into 07', including your worshipped heisman QB.

You're defense gave up a combined 80 points the last 2 games of last year and you lose 6 starters there.

The talent that was lost is immense. Not only do you lose talent, but you lose every significant leader, especially from the offensive side of the ball.

Now again, how does that sound like last year???

Tressel owns Carr 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 12:08


MUFAN2.

It's official. The 2007 UM vs. OSU football debates have begun. Have to admit though this is sounding very familiar to last year...

Tressel owns Carr 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 12:23


Great list...Thanks for helping prove my point!

You're list includes the loss of 1 skill player coming into 06'. You lose basically every significant starting skill player going into 07', including your worshipped heisman QB.

You're defense gave up a combined 80 points the last 2 games of last year and you lose 6 starters there.

The talent that was lost is immense. Not only do you lose talent, but you lose every significant leader, especially from the offensive side of the ball.

Now again, how does that sound like last year???


Good. Thought I lost ya. Guess that google took longer than usual.

The talent we lost is immense true, I'm not debating that. But the talent we lost last year equals the talent we lost this year. 5 first round draft picks last year man. I'm guessing three this year? Ginn, Pittman, Gonzalez.

Were you on this board last year at this time? The comments from you are eerily similar to those of last year.

PinballPete 
Member
# Posted: 4 Apr 2007 13:24


All TOC cares about is seeing how many threads he can hijack.

This has gotten way off topic, so.....back to John Beilein.

Anyone catch his presser today? He made is sound as if he will be much more accessible than Amaker, who didn't do TV or radio appearances at all. How recruiting and recruits are handled remains to be seen.

He just sounded like a personable coach, which isn't that hard but is a nice change from Tommy, who never once joined his team at the place I work for their free (NCAA sanctioned) meals and let his assistants do the local radio show.

Beilein might be an a**, but at least we'll find out sooner rather than later.

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