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Buckeye Sweetie 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:34


I'm looking to buy a semi-used SUV next month. My choices are:

Ford Escape
Honda CRV
Honda Element
Honda Pilot

Any thoughts or warnings?

egami 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:40 Edited by: egami


Wow, a lot of difference in the 3 Honda's....are you trying to stay smaller? Honestly I really like Sequioa's in the SUV arena.

Honestly, we don't buy anything but Honda/Toyota for the most part. If you want long term reliability they are just hard to beat.

Buckeye Sweetie 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:43


I'm looking at MGP, those 3 are around 21-28 which is really good for SUV's. I don't need anything monstrous.

GoBlue21 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:46


I just got rid of my 2004 Ford Escape for a 2008 Toyota Camry...I loved the Escape, didn't have a problem with it. I had it for 4 years but wanted to lower my monthly payments and save a little money on the gas so I went to the Camry. Plus I wanted to have a car that was under warranty just in case something went wrong with Escape. So I got rid of the Escape before anything went wrong with it. Hope that helps!!!

egami 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:49


Oh, yeah, I don't care about MPG's...lol

Imo, you can't go wrong with Honda or Toyota. I think 4WD is invaluable. My buddy and his wife drove a CRV and really enjoyed it both from a utility perspective and from a commuting perspective. I have another friend that his wife drives an Element and her complaint is it feels too big for parking in the more urban areas.

bigboyBlue 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:50


For older but really nice SUVs, my fav is the Lexus RX300, love it!

GoBlue21 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:51


I really never calculated the MPG in the Escape. The sticker when I bought it said 18-25... I was filling up every 5-6 days, with the Camry driving the same places I drove 12 days before I had to fill up...

Buckeye Sweetie 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:51


It does! I would go with just a smaller car that saves on gas, but I have 2 boys involved in baseball, football & skiing & a daughter in dance so I'm looking to have a car that I can actually fit things into right now! And no!! I'm not doing the mama mobile thing again! I found an Escape for $11,600 with 36,000 miles on it & I'll be putting around $4000 down. Hopefully my payments will fall under $250! I can't higher then that. Luckily I live close to where all my kids have to go & I only work 5 miles from where I live & my gym is in between.

Buckeye Sweetie 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:52


Lexus RX300

Perhaps if I fall in love with a Sugar Daddy!!

egami 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:53


I really never calculated the MPG in the Escape.

Someone in our office drives one and she said she gets about 19 on average. About 50/50 city/highway.

Another person has a Blazer and similar driving gets about 17 on average.

Buckeye Sweetie 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:56


Blazers are 6 cyl. or up. I like those, but I know that gas would suck up in that. I don't mind having a 4 cyl. engine, but does that make it harder on an engine if it's smaller in a heavier vehicle? Is there a big difference between a 4 & 6?

egami 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 13:59 Edited by: egami


If the main thing you care about is commuting and carting kids you are safe going the 4 cyl route.

Also, just my recommendation, it'd be well worth a one month subscription to Consumer Reports to look for potential issue with each make and model if you are buying used. And, of course, a carfax.com report on the actual vehicle itself.

Personally, I'd avoid anything out of the Katrina area...

GoBlue21 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:00


Someone in our office drives one and she said she gets about 19 on average

That sounds about right!!! They are nice but I still have about the same amount of room in my Camry now than my Escape. The Escape just sat higher and you could fit taller items in cargo area but Camry trunk is just as big length and width wise...The 4WD was nice on the Escape but I never really got to use it, 1 or 2 days wasn't worth the extra money I spent. The Camry handles just as well in the snow. I drove it last Wednesday in the snow in Cincinnati and it was fine. A little sliding on the ice but the Escape did the same thing on ice also in 4WD. They don't make a car for icy conditions...

egami 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:01


They don't make a car for icy conditions...

True enough, although weight will help substantially with traction....however, then you're talking the bigger, heavier, 6 cyl. vehicles, so yeah...compared to a Camry or something it's a coin flip.

GoBlue21 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:02


I had the 6 cylinder 201 horsepower, It drove fine! I went to a 4 cylinder Camry to save a little more on the gas! There probably isn't much difference between the 4 and the 6 unless you are racing to get your kids to sporting events

GoBlue21 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:05


egami

I'm with you but she isn't going to get a Sequioa, Land Cruiser, Expedition, etc for under $250 a month with only $4000 down....

Unless she has a sugar daddy hook her up!!!

Buckeye Sweetie 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:05


You do realize one of you guys are going to go car shopping with me!! Used car salesman can smell me coming a mile away!!

egami 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:07 Edited by: egami


I'm with you but she isn't going to get a Sequioa, Land Cruiser, Expedition, etc for under $250 a month with only $4000 down.... GoBlue21

Yeah, which is why I said it's a coin flip...in that case the 4 cyl. is fine.

You do realize one of you guys are going to go car shopping with me!! Used car salesman can smell me coming a mile away!! Buckeye Sweetie

My wife is a nurse and I've actually gone car shopping with two single women she worked with to help them not get the run around.

But I am in Iowa...

GoBlue21 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:09 Edited by: GoBlue21


Buckeye Sweetie

I spent 6 hours at Honda looking at Accords the Friday after thanksgiving, I spent 4 hours at Toyota and 2 hours at Kia looking at Optimas on Saturday. I finally went to a different Toyota dealer on Sunday and found the car that I wanted for the right price after 3 hours. I logged in 15 hours at dealerships, so I'm burned out a little BS The Camry was 2 weeks old yesterday....

GoBlue21 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:10 Edited by: GoBlue21


Buckeye Sweetie

Used car salesman can smell me coming a mile away!!

Is that a good or bad thing???

Buckeye Sweetie 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:18


Well..........I guess it depends on if you like your candy sweet or not

Wolvrin704 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:22


I wish my truck got 20mpg, I parked it and went back to the Stang, at least until it snows.

The Escape is a nice vehicle, but honestly I prefer the new edge. And for reliability can't go wrong with a Honda. The one you found doesn't sound like a bad price. Bought my wife a car 2 years ago for about the same $$$ after accounting for the down payment and our monthly is just over $200.

Best advice I can give is go in prepared. Get a carfax on the vehicle, research what type of equipment your desired vehicle came with and what trim level you are getting (i.e. XL, XLT, SE, GT). Know what the safety ratings as well as consumer ratings are for the vehicle. It would also be a good idea to get a price range from somewhere such as Kelly Blue Book. And most importantly, if possible get financing before going to the dealer and purchasing, you'll save money.

egami 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:22


Sent you a PM with some tips, be glad to help any way I can. Best of luck!

michagain 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:33


looking to buy a semi-used SUV

My advice is to play football for Ohio State and the boosters will buy you one.

Varsity O 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:34


i have a 2006 mercury mariner hybrid (which is basically an escape) and i hate it. can't wait to get rid of it. the interior noise is TERRIBLE - like driving with my windows down when they're up. it also got a really crappy safety rating (right after i bought it, of course), now the windows make this funny noise when they go up, there's a delay when i go from a stopped position and have to wait for the gas motor to kick in from the hybrid motor (which, you need to learn to leave a little extra time to make a left turn, otherwise you'll get nailed from oncoming traffic), the materials seem to be cheap (and seem cheaper as the vehicle gets older). i'd stay away from the escape. in fact, it's going to be hard for me to buy another domestic vehicle. my last 3 have been a jeep, a gmc, and the mercury. all have been disappointments

egami 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:37


i have a 2006 mercury mariner hybrid (which is basically an escape) and i hate it. can't wait to get rid of it. the interior noise is TERRIBLE - like driving with my windows down when they're up.

Two comments on this:

1. This is a common problem I hear with owners of vehicles and a very good issue to bring up, some cars/trucks just plain stink with it and there is nothing you can do.

2. Sometimes, depending on manufacturer, the doors can be adjusted to fix this. My Dodge truck had this issue then it was taken care of by the dealer...however, if the vehicles doors are welded versus being mounted with bolts, you are screwed.

1OSUNUT 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:39


I have worked for Honda the last 18 years in the service and now parts dept. I own 3 Honda including a Pilot. They are great vehicles and will give you many years of reliable service, while holding their resale value. The CR-V and Element and basically the same vehicle with different bodies. As long as you stay 2002 or newer on the CR-V you will not have any problems. The 2001 and older ones will eventually need a driveshaft in the area of $1000.

Go ahead and buy any of the Honda products and enjoy.

BleedingBlue 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:56


I test Drove the Toyota Rav4, The Honda CRV, The Mazda CX7 and the Ford Edge. I spent over a month shopping and finally pulled the trigger on the Edge. I absolutely love it. I took my First long trip up to Boston with it and absolutely loved the ride. I was doing 80 on the Merritt parkway in a hurricane and I swore the car was on rails. I've had it for almost 2 months now and no complaints here whatsoever and for a 265hp V6 that gets 24mpg's you can't beat it. Good luck inwhich ever you chooses. Everyone has their own opinions and I had to find out for myself.

Buckeye Sweetie 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:58


My advice is to play football for Ohio State and the boosters will buy you one.
How bout I just sleep with one of them? I think it would be a lot more comfortable then getting tackled by a 300+ pounder!

Varsity O 
Member
# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 14:59


i don't know, sweetie. i think some of the boosters ARE 300+ pounders. might be more comfortable to get tackled.

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