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Detroit Blue 
# Posted: 3 Sep 2007 16:47

In my opinion the difference between T.B. in college and the NFL is all that needs to be said on how UM does not develope their talent while they are there. For a team that gets top 5 talent year in and year out, this situdation is disgusting. Everyone should now, sources I know say nothing will happen during the season as the plan even before this debacle was for Lloyd to retire at the end of the season. The question remains, who will they get to replace him. Keep our heads up and hope the players will take care of the rest of this season on their own. 11-1!

Desert Blue 
# Posted: 3 Sep 2007 19:28

I thought I was the only one who had noticed that a great quarterback that Carr did not know how to coach had obviously found a good coach at the Patriots. What better way to show what a lousy coach Lloyd Carr has been! Did you notice that New England has picked up another Carr rejected quarterback? Doesn't that tell you something about a pro team's evaluation of Carr's ability to coach. What a reflection on the UM program.

# Posted: 3 Sep 2007 20:18

Brady had to earn his job because Wonder Boy Henson was getting reps as a true freshman. That alone was a good thing for Tom and probably developed his character all that much more.

Brady showed his stuff as a senior, beating ND, PSU and OSU in the final minutes and then rallying us past Bama in the Orange Bowl.

I don't agree that Carr failed to develop him. He backed up Griese in 1997. His lunch pail attitude was really developed during his last two years. He had that coming in but really learned what competition was all about.

I thought that he was a lot better QB than where he was drafted but he didn't have the foot speed that the NFL was looking for at the time (guys like McNabb and Akili Smith were the rage). Brady improved his footwork as a senior and was not given enough credit by the pro scouts.

Having said all this, Carr learned his lesson with Wonder Boy, who took Steinbrenner's Buckeye money and bolted town after telling Lloyd he was returning for his senior year.

I really think the UM talent gap is with the D. Cato June was a very average safety at Michigan but turned into an All-Pro LB at Indy. Ian Gold was a decent LB but also played well in the pros. Either Big Fat Gabe Watson or Lazy Allen Branch will probably work out for the Cardinals after playing well in some games for Lloyd, but disappearing at other times. James Hall has played for about 6 years after being a semi-starter.

If there is any position from UM that has not done well in the pros it is the WR. David Terrell, M. Walker, Desmond Howard (save one super bowl season) didn't play like high picks. Braylon might still be a star. Toomer has been the best overall WR.

# Posted: 22 Oct 2007 06:36

lesmilesnextcoach; you couldnt say it any better;you forgot to add wonder boys dad was bought out too. great post.

# Posted: 22 Oct 2007 08:47

LesMilesNextUMCoach great post and I also think Brady was developing at UM. I mean, hes the last UM QB to win a bowl game and beat OSU in the same season.

and dont get me started on Wonderboy.


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