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Sack Lloyd Carr / Other Detroit Area Sports / Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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goblue 
Member
# Posted: 5 May 2007 11:26 Edited by: goblue


Anyone watching this fight? It should be a good one, possibly one of the better classics. As much as I want to see it, I probably won't. I don't feel like dishing out the money on pay per view only to watch it by myself. My eleven year old son who would be watching it with me will be at a sleepover at a friend's house. My other twelve year old son isn't into it and my wife isn't into it either. I guess if I want to watch it bad enough I could call some friends up to see if they want to watch it. But as of now I probably won't. It's too bad they just can't show it on cable.

Here's some of the article on the fight in Saturday's Detroit Free Press:

Former world champion Roberto Duran likes De La Hoya because of his naturally bigger build.

"Oscar has a little more desire, strength and size," Duran said. "I lean toward Oscar."

Detroit Lions great Barry Sanders, who had power, speed and more moves than a chess master, thinks Mayweather can win.

"Floyd wins because he is young and hungry," Sanders said. "The fight will be close and goes the distance because Oscar raises his game to the level of his opponent's challenge...but both fighters are too good to allow the other to dominate."

The article went on to say - Tonight's fight is more likely to go the distance, with Mayweather coming on strong in the later stages to snatch the victory.

NASCAR favorite Dale Earnhardt Jr. agrees.

"Mayweather will be just too much for Oscar to handle," said Earnhardt, a good scrapper on the track. "There's a small percentage of a TKO in the late rounds. Win to Mayweather."

Here's the tale of the tape: De La Hoya
Age 34
Wt. 154
Rec. 38-4
KOs 30
Rea. 72
Ht. 5-11

Mayweather
Age 30
Wt. 150
Rec. 37-0
KOs 24
Rea. 72
Ht. 5-8

For the record I'm not sure who's going to win.

Is anyone going to be watching it and/or who do you think will win in what round?

Jimmers 
Member
# Posted: 5 May 2007 12:05


Oscar doesn't stand a chance. It would be better for him if he just goes down in the first round.

gordify 
Member
# Posted: 5 May 2007 12:24


Floyed will dominate, even though most of the Grand Rapids area hopes otherwise. He's a little thug. Just listening to local media, I hear most people rooting against him. Funniest part is that Floyed Sr. got tickets from Oscar, not his son.

bluefan 
Member
# Posted: 5 May 2007 16:41


Floyd will win with one punch and then claim he was taking it easy on him.

1OSUNUT 
Member
# Posted: 5 May 2007 18:21


I don't know how many of you watch the show these two boxers have on HBO but Floyd comes off as a arrogant jack- ***. The only difference between Floyd and alot of the arrogant pro we watch in other sports is that he is a hard worker. Alot of guys shoot off their mouths with nothing to back it up with. Floyd puts the training in and works as hard or harder then Oscar does. I would love to see Oscar knock him in to the second row - I don't see it happening. Floyd's quickness might give Oscar fits. If the fight goes the distance Oscar might win a close one but if I was betting I take Mayweather.

The Michigan Man 
Member
# Posted: 5 May 2007 18:48


Anyone watching this fight? It should be a good one, possibly one of the better classics.

I can't watch boxing anymore after becoming a UFC fan. It just seems 1-dimensional, 2 guys standing there punching each other with big pillows on their hands. MMA has punching, kicking, submissions, etc., it is just much more entertaining.

goblue 
Member
# Posted: 5 May 2007 23:44


I just heard on ESPN Mayweather won by a split decision in the 12 round fight.

gordify 
Member
# Posted: 6 May 2007 06:58 Edited by: gordify


BORING!! That was one of the worst fights I've ever seen. There were no hard punches landed by either fighter. Oscar threw one hundred more punches but they were hitting Floyed on his arms and gloves. Floyed landed almost twice as many punches but they were all weak jabbs and he didn't throw one combination all night. Oscar was rewarded though for being more aggresive. If he hadn't been aggresive they would still be standing there looking at each other. And once again the judges were inconsistant. One had Oscar 115-113, the other two had it at Mayweather 116-112,115-113. However, the last one had Mayweather winning the last round, when it was clear to everyone that Oscar took the last round. Had he watched the same fight as every one else, it would have been a draw. After the fight Larry Merchant interviewed Floyed Sr. and he thought Oscar should have one. Either way it sucked and I won't be suckered into buying the rematch. I'm saving my payperview money for the UFC.

Detroit Blue 
Member
# Posted: 6 May 2007 10:55


I think I'll save mine for the dirt race at Eldora!

MUFAN2 
Member
# Posted: 6 May 2007 14:51


this is why boxing sucks now and pis*es me off. I am a fan of all good boxing but to get down to it I love the heavyweights. Usually because they knock each other out.

These lighter fighters always fight like this and they fights end with no knocks outs. I just had to pay the 54 bucks for it and couldn't resist.

damn I wish there were some good heavyweights right now

The Michigan Man 
Member
# Posted: 6 May 2007 16:24


These lighter fighters always fight like this and they fights end with no knocks outs. I just had to pay the 54 bucks for it and couldn't resist.

The UFC has a lot of exciting 155lb fighters, including Sherk, Florian, Pulver, BJ Penn, Guillard, Stevenson, etc., who have speed as well as knockout and submission power. There are very few boring lightweight fights in the UFC. Put De La Hoya or Mayweather in with one of those guys in the cage under UFC rules, and they wouldn't survive the 1st round.

goblue 
Member
# Posted: 6 May 2007 21:06


These lighter fighters always fight like this and the fights end up with no knockouts.

I don't know if it's just me but boxing seemed like it was a lot better when I was growing up. I was a young teenager back in the Detroit Kronk Gym days with Tommy Hearns and the gang. I still remember when Hearns was just an up and coming boxer before he knocked out Pepino Quevas for his first title. Maybe it's just me cause I'm old now but it just seemed like boxing was much bigger than it is today.

I think part of the resaon why there isn't as many knockouts or good fights is cause there's 12 rounds instead of 15 rounds. When I was growing up I don't ever remember there being 12 rounds for any title fights. Of course they changed that rule for the boxers' safety due to the deaths in the ring, which is probably for the better. But I do think there would be more knockouts and better fights if it went 15 rounds.

But having Duran, Wilfred Benitez, Leonard and Hearns all in the same weight division at one time was unbelievable. And right above them was Hagler. Then there was Aaron Pryor, Alexis Arguilo, Ray Boom Boom Mancini, Sean O'grady, Hilmer Kenty, Camacho and whoever else I'm missing all in the light weight division around the same time frame. That was just an unbelievable time for the lighter divisions.

Bucknasty10 
Member
# Posted: 13 May 2007 21:21


Boxing is a real Sport, UFC is just a glorified bar fight!

The Michigan Man 
Member
# Posted: 14 May 2007 05:31


Boxing is a real Sport, UFC is just a glorified bar fight!

The UFC has just as much oversight as boxing. What is the biggest difference between boxing and the UFC? No one has ever died in the UFC. If any sport is a bar fight, with 2 guys just standing in front of each other and flailing away, it is boxing

These "bar fighters" are usually accomplished collegiate wrestlers, kick boxers, or black belts in various martial arts disciplines - what makes a boxer so much more sophisticated? Leon Spinks & Mike Tyson - yes, they are sophisticated athletes.

Boxing is dead. Mayweather vs De La Hoya was the exception, not the rule. The UFC is putting on big events with nearly a million PPV sales every single month - the Mayweather fight is the only quality fight that will be put on by the most corrupt sport in America, with guys like Don King pulling the strings.

goblue 
Member
# Posted: 19 May 2007 00:24


The Michigan Man
it is just much more entertaining.

I couldn't agree with you more. You have officially turned me into a UFC fan Michigan Man.

I watched the UFC Friday night. I like it much better than boxing. I used to watch it before they started using gloves but haven't bothered to check it out since.

Heavyweight O'Brien upset Herring. O'Brien has an unstoppable take down and probably took down Herring about ten times. He wasn't much of a striker though and Herring was getting real frustrated and so were the fans. But I think if a wrestler is that good to where they can take their opponent down all night, they deserve the win.

Herman beat Price in the middleweights.

But the top fight had MSU's Rashad Evans knocking out OSU's Salmon with one swift kick to the head in the light heavy's. Salmon was out cold.

Just wondering though. Who do you think will win in the rematch Liddell or Jackson?

And what do you think of O'Brien against Jackson or Liddell?

O'Brien is only 22 and is relatively new with little striking ability. But this guy is an unbelievable wrestler at 230lbs that has an unbelievable take down and is very hard to escape from once he has his opponent on the ground.

The Michigan Man 
Member
# Posted: 19 May 2007 15:42


You have officially turned me into a UFC fan Michigan Man.

It's not difficult to get people hooked - the product sells itself. Great athleticism and action. You caught one of the most brutal knockouts I've ever seen in the Evans - Salmon fight. Watch some of the "UFC Unleashed" shows to see some of the good fights from the past.

Just wondering though. Who do you think will win in the rematch Liddell or Jackson?

I'm predicting Liddell by knockout some time in the 2nd round. I think Chuck has evolved substantially since the last time they fought, while Rampage has had a few tough losses and sort of drifted. Chuck is on top of his game, and pretty much unstoppable. Of course, in this sport, all it takes is one mistake and its over, so Liddell could certainly end up on his back. I'm really looking forward to this one

goblue 
Member
# Posted: 19 May 2007 22:06


I'm really looking forward to this one.

Me too. But the only thing is it's on pay per view I believe this Monday. As much as I like watching the UFC, I can't justify dishing out $50 or whatever to see this fight. I have more important things to spend my money on.

Will they show the replay of the fight sometime after the fight? If so, I think that's the way to go for me. If they don't show the replay, I guess I'll have to watch the other fights that they show for free.

The Michigan Man 
Member
# Posted: 20 May 2007 12:20


Me too. But the only thing is it's on pay per view I believe this Monday. As much as I like watching the UFC, I can't justify dishing out $50 or whatever to see this fight.

Check with local sports bars. I know that most of them buy the UFC PPV and show it for free, which is what I usually do if I don't buy into the PPV with a bunch of guys.

goblue 
Member
# Posted: 20 May 2007 21:03


Check with local sports bars.

Brilliant idea. I just might try that.

And my error. I think the fight is Sat. May 26, not this Monday. Also, this is a light heavyweight fight, not heavyweight. O'Brien wouldn't be able to fight them cause he's heavyweight. If I'm wrong feel free to correct me.

The Michigan Man 
Member
# Posted: 21 May 2007 17:27


O'Brien wouldn't be able to fight them cause he's heavyweight.

True, the guy is 240, could probably never make 205.

If O'Brien develops a more well-rounded game (striking and "ground & pound") beyond his great wrestling take-downs, he might give Couture, the heavyweight champ, a good fight. In the fight against Herring he didn't seem to know what to do once he took him down - if he learned to drop some fists and elbows, he probably could have knocked Herring out.

 

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